Ahmadiyya Indonesia
A news many Muslim in Indonesia has expected the Indonesia’s government to do on Ahmadiya much earlier
Indonesia’s Government has placed severe restrictions on the activities of the minority muslim, Ahmadiya sect which has been denounced as deviant by Islamic hardliners. See here the six points of the decree against Ahmadiyya (in Bahasa Indonesia)
The decree, according to Radio Australia reports has
…falls short of the outright ban demanded by fundamentalists.
The government seems wanting to take the middle path between appeasing those who demand Ahmadiya’s ban and those who want Indonesia to be more tolerant to any expression, including religious expression.
Indonesia’s vice president said the government does not plan to ban a sect branded by many Muslims as “heretical”, and denied too that authorities had been soft on a militant Islamic group blamed for attacks.
Vice President Jusuf Kalla told Reuters in an interview on Tuesday that the Ahmadiyya sect can continue in Indonesia and its followers were allowed to worship in their homes and mosques, but they must not preach or try to convert others,[ ... ]
Indonesian, both Muslim and non-Muslim, the so-called “liberal” and fundamentalist, needs to learn how to express their disagreement in a more civilized way. To disagree is one thing, to express one’s disagreement in an acceptable way –both in words or “actions”, violent or non-violent is quite another.
Ahmadiyya sect is the best sect of Islam in the world rest are quite dangerous. Let the people should decide what is best for them themselves dont force and get mad like Kaffirs used to get furious in the days of Prophet Mohammad.
Fanatics cant threatened Indonesian Government to force people to chose a religion that certain extremist want to enforce. I believe If whole world act like Ahmadiyya without even believing what Ahmadiyya doctrine is then this world will be heaven. So you don’t believe Ahmadiyya but at least do all the good things they are doing for humanity.
Welcome to life! You can’t stand alone, but u can’t stand among too crowded crowds, either. Feel free for what u believe, so feel free to take the consequences. The Strong, The Weak, and The Joker. Which one are you? The great chronicle ever. Indonesia, the faces of the philistines, is a sort of an example of doom-exhibition process. Snider, the only forward-matured entity, thinks in a view of the basic purpose of the creation of mankind. TO BE GOOD. But the question to the statement is “For which GOD”?
Christian Prime Minister of Canada just opened largest Ahmadiyya Mosque in Calgary Canada and sympathized about persecution of peaceful Ahmadia people by dangerous Muslim extremist in most Muslim countries.
I also see Muslims killing Muslims now a days and for 1500 years and almost all sects declares other sects Kaffirs (infidels).They say Islam means peace and on the name of religion they are killing other Muslims. Is this a conspiricy or what or do Muslim really hate each other.They kill each other on the name of religion Islam and God.
In my opinion without any doubt Ahmadiyya is most peaceful religion may be they are the only one following true Islam which means peace. Time to think
I’ve been thinking that it might be a conspiracy or else. And also I’ve been thinking that these actions of labellings by those who don’t really know the basic teachings of Islam. Peace is quite relatively interpreted by some people. Extreme itself is relative. To those who think that Ahmadiyya isn’t extremists, so be it. However, think again, the violations that they’ve committed upon other muslims, not physically but spiritually. To us, it is more backstabbing than physical attacks. It is not how our body will tear apart that we’re worried about, but our spiritual life. We’re defending our existence, instead , it’s our belief. Snider, you must look deep into the teachings they’re proposing. It’s an insult to us.
I’ve been thinking that it might be a conspiracy or else. And also I’ve been thinking of these actions of labellings by those who don’t really know the basic teachings of Islam. Peace is quite relatively interpreted by some people. Extreme itself is relative. To those who think that Ahmadiyya isn’t extremists, so be it. However, think again, the violations that they’ve committed upon other muslims, not physically but spiritually. To us, it is more backstabbing than physical attacks. It is not how our body will tear apart that we’re worried about, but our spiritual life. We’re not defending our existence, instead , it’s our belief. Snider, you must look deep into the teachings they’re proposing. It’s an insult to us.
Two million Ahmdiyya can not fatally hurt 1.3 billion Muslims and 2.2 billion Christians so badly that all over Muslim world they are out on street against Ahmadiyya while Ahmadiyya is helping the poor and needy and trying to save their own life frome Muslim Violance and killing. It is strange most peaceful ahmadiyya has been declared as Most dangerous for criminal and extremist Muslims.
May be you should check your baseless beliefs and anti Quran that Jesus is in the Sky and Prophet Mohammad is in the dirt.
Your Belief Jesus will comeback as a Prophet after Mohammad and do such a great blood shed with Mahdi and kill all the Kaffirs and pigs. A Bani Israeli Prophet 2000 year old comes back as prophet after Mohammad will become last prophet automatically. All your beliefs need to be revised or it will become laughing matter all over the world.
If they are are lying no need to worry but if they are telling truth or sensible things or doing correct interpretation then you have to worry and do what you are doing use violence. And as for the weak violence is the only way because you may not have truth on your side to win with arguments. But If you have the truth then challenge them on Televised open debate and if they don’t except they are losers and if you don’t challenge them on debate then you are obvious loser. But avoid violence and falsehood that is not Islam.
Make sure all arguments should be limited to Quran as no one agrees on all hadith
Well, it seems like you did your homework. Belief is not entirely based on reasonings. If all things stated merely by numbers, so what’s the privilege of God. Certain things remain a mystery. Giving a piece of cake to the poor doesn’t make you an angel. Devils know better.
“Make sure all arguments should be limited to Quran as no one agrees on all hadith”. I mostly agree. So to speak, i suppose you have studied Quran properly. If Ahmadiyya put their belief under the wide-spreading base of Quran, then they should know that the prophet Mohammad is the last prophet. Why did in the world they proclaim Mirza Gulam Ahmad as the last? If so, Which Quran do they have faith in? Islam knows only one Quran. The one that says prophet Mohammad is the last one. Are they muslims? Not believing the prophet is not the only thing that they provoke but also there are others that obviously not only deriding but also mocking. Snider, We respect all races for we are not familiar with the term. We respect all religions. We respects Christians for they have their own name to believe in. But this? The same name but different prophet? And as i said, it’s only one thing. Read more about their agendas of belief. You’ll see what’s funny. And you’ll see who’s gonna laugh.
Oh, Snider. You might wanna click the link above about Ahmadiyya. Or here. http://www.aboutahmadiyya.com/?gclid=CMD15sb5tZQCFRsbegodcx-aGQ
Or here.
http://www.aboutahmadiyya.com/?gclid=CMD15sb5tZQCFRsbegodcx-aGQ
If you really want to see the beauty of Islam read Ahmadiyya literature even Christians are impressed of the wisdom of Islam as explained by Hazrat Mahdi Ahmad.
Remember in Quran it says:
“O children of Adam if Messengers come to you from among yourselves, rehearsing My signs unto you (then do not reject them)Indeed you should fear God and do good deeds as then no fear or grief shall touch you (7-35). It proves Children of Adam will always be contacted by God through Messangers and that shows love and care and graciousness mercy and beauty of Allah rather then cutting off Nabuwwat and acting like a Dead God like all other religion.God of all religion are Dead and they do not talk except the God of Ahmadiyya Muslims Ofcourse Prpophet Mohammad is the last prophet who brought Last Shriah and no more such Prophet can come with new shriah but as quran says if you follow Quran and Prophet then God will reward you Nabiyyena siddiquina shahideen wa Saleheen. So a Muslim can becom Saleh, Shaheed, Siddique and Nabi as it is very clear (4:69). To become Nabi will be very rare and it is appointed by Allah and if a false prophet stands up he is killed by Allah
Quran speaks clearly a raising a prophet just like prophet of Arabia read earlier verse and explanation also so you understand here is the next verse
“And he will raise him among others of them who have not yet joined them. He is mighty and wise. (62:2-3)
Quran also clearly says “And remember when Jesus son of Mary ‘O Children of Israel surely I am Allah’s messenger unto you fulfilling that which is before me of the Torah, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger who will come after me. His name will be Ahmad.’And when he came to thm with clear proofs they said, “This is clear enchantment.”
But who could do greater wrong then one who forges lie against Allah while heis called to Islam( means they will call Ahmad towards ISLAM SO IT IS NOT ABOUT PROPHET MOHAMMAD AS NO ONE CALLED PROPHET Mohammad TO BECOME MUSLIM but every one is calling Mirza Ahmad towards Islam as these verse says) Al saff (61: 6-7.
Quran has many places referred prophethood will be continued as Allah did not lose his capability to send Prophet whenever he wants. Again A prophet with New Sharia cant come unless people change the Quran